The LG G4 Reviewby Joshua Ho on July 30, 2015 10:00 AM EST
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In configuring the G4, LG (and recently Motorola) have broken away from the pack in terms of SoC choice, electing to use Qualcomm’s Snapdragon 808. This makes the G4 the first flagship phone to launch with the 808 as its SoC, and the first phone overall that we have reviewed with the 808 as well.
For those that are unfamiliar with this SoC, I would refer to our previous coverage on the Snapdragon 808. In short, the Snapdragon 808 is effectively a simpler SoC than the Snapdragon 810, with two CPU cores on the big cluster instead of four, a more mature LPDDR3 memory controller, a smaller GPU, and some general reduction in features and complexity in some aspects like the ISP and video encode blocks.
|Qualcomm's Snapdragon 810 and 808|
|Snapdragon 810||Snapdragon 808|
|Internal Model Number||MSM8994||MSM8992|
|CPU||4 x ARM Cortex A57 + 4 x ARM Cortex A53 (big.LITTLE)||2 x ARM Cortex A57 + 4 x ARM Cortex A53 (big.LITTLE)|
|ISA||32/64-bit ARMv8-A||32/64-bit ARMv8-A|
|GPU||Adreno 430||Adreno 418|
|Memory Interface||2 x 32-bit LPDDR4-1600||2 x 32-bit LPDDR3-933|
|Integrated Modem||9x35 core, LTE Category 6/9, DC-HSPA+, DS-DA||9x35 core, LTE Category 6/9, DC-HSPA+, DS-DA|
|Camera ISP||14-bit dual-ISP||12-bit dual-ISP|
|Shipping in Devices||1H 2015||1H 2015|
Meanwhile to understand why four cores is not immediately better than two cores - and thus why Snapdragon 808 is not as big of a difference from Snapdragon 810 as it may first seem - it's important to understand Amdahl's law, which is pretty simple once you think about it. In short, for a given workload if a certain percentage is inherently single-threaded, no matter how many cores you throw at the problem you will eventually rearch a point where you are solely limited by how fast the single-threaded portion (critical section) of the code will run, and the returns diminish with each core you throw at the problem. It turns out that people in general are really bad at thinking in a parallel manner anyways, so writing code that actually takes advantage of multiple cores is generally difficult and as a result a lot of applications will leave much of the work on a single thread anyways, so the third and fourth cores of a CPU can go relatively unused in some situations.
In the specific case of the Snapdragon 808 and Snapdragon 810, the differences between the SoCs' CPU blocks are definitely bigger than just a case of lopping off cores from a die. As a result the actual power consumed for a single core at a given frequency isn't guaranteed to be the same. There's definitely overhead involved in wiring up additional cores, so product design has to balance core count with core complexity.
When it comes to smartphones, there’s a sort of hierarchy of needs when it comes to establishing a great user experience. If you follow this down to the base, the foundation that everything rests upon is the hardware. Within the somewhat nebulous area of hardware, there are a number of key drivers for app performance in the hardware. These areas include the SoC and eMMC/NAND. DRAM is also a key factor, but this is often hard to perceive as so much of a modern PC is designed specifically to hide the relatively high latency and low bandwidth of DRAM.
As we can see here, it looks like the combination of the Snapdragon 808 SoC and some work on LG/Qualcomm's part with optimizations for Chrome produces some pretty stunning results in Kraken and Octane. I suspect at least part of this is better optimization at the SoC level for the Cortex A57 in the Snapdragon 808/general software optimization, and at least partly optimizations designed to improve scores in those benchmarks as performance is noticeably more mixed in WebXPRT 2013. At any rate, web browsing performance is consistently good with the G4 and even intensive sites scroll smoothly.
Once again, we see a noticeable performance uplift relative to the Snapdragon 810 devices that we've tested. It seems that LG has made a solid judgment call when they decided to use Snapdragon 808 instead of 810. However, despite this we see that the LG G4 trails behind the Galaxy S6 in terms of performance, which is due to the lower GPU score here which is closer to the Snapdragon 800 than Snapdragon 805.
Once again, we see that the G4 performs quite strongly in these general purpose benchmarks, which to some extent affirms that more cores aren't necessarily better, as core count alone really fails to describe significant differences between SoCs. With a combination of the Snapdragon 808 SoC and better software optimization, it seems that LG has made a phone that can perform everyday tasks better than Snapdragon 810 devices, although it still falls short when compared to something like the Galaxy S6.
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Fidelator - Wednesday, August 5, 2015 - linkThe 6+ doesn't even come close to either the S6 or the G4, that is some bs right there
Mattzerminater - Friday, August 7, 2015 - linkDude! Aspect ratio for the camera can be changed between 16:9, 4:3 and 1:1 in the settings. Turning off the quickshot feature when double tapping the volume down button can also be turned off in the phone settings.
cdm283813 - Sunday, August 9, 2015 - linkAfter owning a Note 2, 3 and 4 I really wanted to try something different (and smaller) for 2015. So I waited for the G4 especially after seeing the S6 but I ultimately went to the S6. That initial pick up and feel moment of the G4 had me thinking about the Note 2 which for me was a step backwards. It felt too light and cheap; things that I defended Note 2 and 3 for having. Plus 5.5" is still a phablet in my book no matter how much they strink the body. And I'm just not a fan of LG's UI look. So far the theme engine in the latest touchwiz is freaking awesome. It really helps when you just need a fresh coat of paint to liven up the phone again.
It's only been about 4 weeks since owning the S6 and I'm still happy. If I really had to change anything it would be a slightly larger battery. But at the same time this phone charges very quick. I have 3 quick chargers (1 car and 2 wall) and so far I haven't run out of battery. So far the S6 has been my best phone to date.
In saying that I can't wait for the 2015 Moto pure review. Like to see how much compromise when into a phone costing $200 to $300 cheaper than a big boy flagship. Ater reading this review I have a new respect for the SD 808. But with the SD 820 coming out it may be short lived
EagleX - Tuesday, October 13, 2015 - linkHow did you get 6.6 hours in pcmark battery work test? I got 5.51, exactly as the average appearing in Pcmark's website. Is it just me?