MSI GT72: Ultra Quality Gaming Performance

Okay, that's enough small talk. I know most of you are really only interested in one thing: how fast is the GTX 980M? I've run a limited set of benchmarks on the system, basically testing at 1920x1080p "Ultra" and "High" settings. I've also increased the number of games being tested for this article beyond the usual five that we use for notebooks, simply because this is first and foremost a gaming notebook. PCMark and general system performance results might be nice to know, but I don't think anyone is going to buy the GT72 unless they plan on utilizing that shiny new GTX 980M. The new games are Batman: Arkham Origins, GRID Autosport, Metro: Last Light Redux, and Sniper Elite 3; I've also brought back Company of Heroes 2, which isn't something we normally test on notebooks. For now I'm comparing the GT72 with three other MSI notebook, and I've also tossed in a desktop i7-4770K (at 4.1GHz) with a GTX 970 as a reference; in theory, the GTX 980M shouldn't be too far off the GTX 970 performance.

For the sake of completeness, the settings used for Ultra generally include anti-aliasing, and in some cases that means SSAA (which can really pummel the GPU). Batman: Arkham Origins sets all the options to on/DX11, anti-aliasing is 4xMSAA, and PhysX is disabled. BioShock Infinite uses the UltraDX11_DDOF setting, Company of Heroes 2 has all the options at their maximum (including anti-aliasing set to High), and GRID Autosport has 4xMSAA enabled with the Ultra quality preset. For Metro: Last Light Redux, all settings are at maximum (including SSAA). And wrapping up, Sleeping Dogs uses the Extreme preset (which includes High SSAA), Sniper Elite 3 uses the Ultra preset with 4xSSAA enabled, and Tomb Raider uses the Ultimate preset (but without enabling SSAA – maxing out the settings drops the 980M by 7 FPS if you're wondering, so it's not a huge difference). Here are the benchmark results, starting with Ultra quality:

1920x1080 Ultra Performance

Batman: Arkham Origins - Ultra

Bioshock Infinite - Ultra

Company of Heroes 2 - Ultra

GRID Autosport - Ultra

Metro: Last Light Redux - Ultra

Sleeping Dogs - Ultra

Sniper Elite 3 - Ultra

Tomb Raider - Ultra

Average FPS for Eight Games - Ultra

First, let me just say that the inclusion of the desktop GTX 970 is really something of a high water mark for mobile GPUs to strive for. Granted, it's a $329 part compared to a $2200+ notebook, but high-end gaming notebooks have never been particularly economical. The fact that the GTX 980M can come close to the GTX 970 is pretty impressive, and it also breaks 30FPS in every one of our test games – something no other mobile GPU has ever achieved.

Obviously there are still going to be games where cranking every dial up to 11 isn't going to work out so well. Metro: Last Light (and the Redux sequel) is a prime example of this, as enabling SSAA in particular can bring even the fastest desktop GPUs down to unplayable frame rates; games like Crysis 3 and The Witcher 2 can be similarly taxing with all the settings maxed. Of course, if we're talking about "normal" settings (e.g. not SSAA), the GTX 980M is able to handle pretty much anything you might want to throw at it. Dropping down to our High settings (which mostly means turning off anti-aliasing in terms of quality and performance, though there are also differences between High and Very High/Ultra in some titles), performance jumps well into the playable range.

In terms of average performance, the GTX 980M tops all mobile contenders by a sizeable margin. It's about 35% faster than the GTX 880M, 70% faster than GTX 870M, and a whopping 110% faster than GTX 860M. Interestingly, I was expecting performance to be closer to the desktop GTX 970, but it turns out the 980M only manages to deliver 81% of the 970 performance on average. GPU memory bandwidth may be a factor here (7GHz vs. 5GHz), and the desktop GPU is also being helped by a CPU that's clocked 17-28% higher than the i7-4710HQ (depending on how high the 4710HQ is able to turbo).

This is part of what makes me wonder if MSI went a bit too conservative on the CPU side of things, but then we're already pushing high frame rates with the 4710HQ and in most cases it's only going to be frame rates above 60 FPS where the CPU plays a significant role.

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  • dblkk - Wednesday, October 8, 2014 - link

    there have been several reviews done on this new chassis. MSI did the GT72 refresh with the same i7 4710 and gtx 880m. Thermals were lower than Asus, and even with similar chipped Dell.
    Without 'turbo fan' on, temps were well below throttling limits. With 'turbo fan' on, temps were incredibly low, fan noise incredibly high.

    The Gt70 has higher GPU temps/throttling with their single fan, but Asus has high/throttling CPU temps with their dual fan. For gaming the GT70 was still a beast even with throttling, but it wasn't the best ill admit. But for rendering/CPU intensive activities, the GT70 is actually one of the best.
  • Aionios - Wednesday, October 8, 2014 - link

    well the thermals are incredible here's a video of full review
  • Meaker10 - Wednesday, October 8, 2014 - link

    They are getting IPS displays in a month or two, 17.3" IPS have only starting to be made.

    Current models should be upgradable since they use a 30 pin eDP connector.
  • nathanddrews - Wednesday, October 8, 2014 - link

    Good to know. I recently tried to upgrade my wife's Lenovo only to discover it used a single-channel LVDS cable. No 1080p IPS for her.
  • Meaker10 - Wednesday, October 8, 2014 - link

    Also there is a 4980HQ version to launch too for those who want more CPU power. It wont be cheap however.
  • nathanddrews - Wednesday, October 8, 2014 - link

    Possible correction:

    Most of the charts are labeled "Ultra", but then underneath say "1920x1080 VeryHigh", except for the very last chart which says "1920x1080 Ultra". The same is true for the charts on "High".

    Overall, an impressive mGPU. Can it be configured with 1TB SSDs instead?
  • JarredWalton - Wednesday, October 8, 2014 - link

    Thanks -- I forgot to change the subtitles on the copy/paste/edit when making the graphs. I've put in the settings used (as much as possible) now.

    As for larger SSDs, the top model comes with four 256GB SSDs in RAID 0, and the usual places that do custom MSI notebooks should allow you to swap out the 1TB HDD for a 1TB SSD.
  • Jambe - Wednesday, October 8, 2014 - link

    I don't need the throughput of RAID SSDs so I'm always left thinking these big laptops would be much more compelling with no M.2 at all and an accessible 2.5" bay. Nice high-cap SSDs are permanently around or below 40 cents per gig, so I just balk at the prices being asked.
  • Meaker10 - Wednesday, October 8, 2014 - link

    There are a variety of models out which can be customised to your needs.
  • bleh0 - Wednesday, October 8, 2014 - link

    I can't wait for a proper roundup of the various 980m equipped models.

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