AMD AM1 Kabini Part 2: Athlon 5350/5150 and Sempron 3850/2650 Tested
by Ian Cutress on May 29, 2014 2:00 PM ESTThe Competition
Because AMD is the first x86 CPU manufacturer to move their tablet focused processors into the socketed market along with low-cost motherboards, Intel has no direct comparative product. We have to look to their Bay Trail-D SoC range which loses that upgradable functionality. Competition between AMD and Intel on this front is a tit-for-tat operation, with each company focusing on their different strengths. AMD’s integrated IGP aims to be more powerful than the equivalent Intel along with support for DDR3-1600 memory, as well as cheaper overall, however Intel can boast dual channel memory and a lower power output.
With all these differences between Kabini and Bay Trail, including price, power and cores/threads, it is hard to find Intel parts that accurately match each other. AMD has put the following in front of reviewers to provide a guide:
AMD consider the Athlon 5350/5150 parts (quad core, 2.05 GHz and 1.6 GHz) in line with the Intel Pentium J2850/J2900, and the Sempron 3850 with the J1850/J1900. For this Part 2 we were able to obtain full Celeron J1800 (dual core) and Celeron J1900 (quad core) Bay Trail-D parts for testing. Even though AMD puts the Athlon 5350 in the path of the J2900, the J2900 is primarily an OEM solution used by Acer. A single J2900 motherboard appeared on Newegg a week after we had packed up testing.
In fact, I think the 5350 vs the J1900 is a better fit:
AMD Athlon 5350 vs. Intel Celeron J1900 | ||||
Athlon 5350 | Celeron J1900 | |||
CPU Architecture | Jaguar | Silvermont | ||
CPU Cores | 4 | 4 | ||
CPU Frequency | 2.05 GHz | 2.0 GHz / 2.4 GHz Turbo | ||
GPU Cores | 128 SPs | 6 EUs | ||
GPU Frequency | 600 MHz | 688 MHz | ||
Memory Channels | Single | Dual | ||
Memory Frequency | 1600 MHz | 1333 MHz | ||
L2 Cache | 2 MB | 2 MB | ||
TDP | 25 W | 10 W | ||
Price | $59 | $82 |
Also we can now directly compare pricing. Take for example the two of the motherboards we had for this review, one J1900 and the other AM1 while equipping the system with an Athlon 5350:
GIGABYTE J1900N-D3V: $87 (Newegg)
GIGABYTE AM1M-S2H: $35 (Newegg)
AMD Athlon 5350: $65 (Newegg)
Totaling up the AMD components gives $100 vs $87 from Newegg, or £65 vs. £66 on Amazon UK, on the extreme high end of a Kabini AM1 setup. Pricing is also influenced slightly by quoting the boxed version of the APU, rather than the OEM pricing that AMD likes to quote.
Our test setup is a follows:
Test Setup | |
CPU | AMD Athlon 5350, Quad Core, 2.05 GHz |
AMD Athlon 5150, Quad Core, 1.60 GHz | |
AMD Sempron 3850, Quad Core, 1.30 GHz | |
AMD Sempron 2650, Dual Core, 1.45 GHz | |
Motherboard | GIGABYTE AM1M-S2H |
Memory | 2x4GB DDR3-1600 9-10-10 |
SSD | OCZ Vertex 3 |
Power Supply | OCZ 1250W ZX Series |
Graphics | Integrated |
Graphics Drivers | 14.3 Beta |
Note that for our benchmark results we are also taking data from previous reviews done at AnandTech, including some of the higher powered mainstream systems. Over time we have added benchmarks (such as SYSmark 2014) which are lacking some of the mid-range data.
Power Consumption: Idle to 100% CPU Load (on IGP)
Because of the difference in TDP, the AMD APUs here use more energy, although all four comfortably use less than the 25W TDP. The dual core especially only registered a 10W difference from idle to a full CPU load.
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ET - Sunday, June 1, 2014 - link
I found the colours of the graphics confusing. Not only were they inconsistent (with the sometimes black, sometimes not) but I think it would have been better to also give the Bay Trail CPU's their own colour.And by the way, why 1280x1024? For historical reasons? 720p would be more reasonable. Can't say if it will get framerates to playable, but at least they'll be closer for this more real world resolution.
loimlo - Sunday, June 1, 2014 - link
Two suggestions :1. I suggest adding power consumption, fan noise to the review.
2. A few comments about Gigabyte motherboard like BIOS, fan control would be nice.
carol45 - Monday, June 2, 2014 - link
Really nice test. Maybe i will convince to AMD thanks this test. http://forum.notebookreview.comPPB - Wednesday, June 4, 2014 - link
No LoL or any other actually popular game benchmarks but instead some AAA games being tested? Just wow.Can someone tell me with a straight face they will be buying a kabini to play Tomb Rider? :rolleyes:
HeyHey!!!345 - Monday, August 18, 2014 - link
It seems the new chips greatly bottlenecks high-end graphics card. What about mid-range?? I plan to get a Sempron 3850 as a cheap build for my cousin since he's on a tight budget. Would it bottleneck that great with graphics cards say an HD7770 or even a GTX 750??Jeris Boltsin - Monday, November 24, 2014 - link
Athlon 5350 + GTX 750 Ti ==> http://www.pcper.com/image/view/39798?return=node%...(Considering how "powerful" the CPU is, I'd personally would've liked to also see 720p results, to see what kinda difference that would've made)
Of couse, if they'd used those ASUS mobos & overclocked that 5350, the result might've been a little better, with some games. And before anyone even asks: There's a video on YouTube where some dude overcloked it to 2709 Mhz, using Asus AM1I-A and the stock heatsink & fan.
Some other people have managed to go up to 3 Ghz with 5350s, using water cooling - but "money doesn't grow on trees" and all that.
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