Performance

We've been wanting to have a benchmark for Media Center ever since it was released, and we do have some benchmark ideas in the works, but for today's launch of MCE 2005 we decided to take a look at what the minimum CPU requirements are for smooth operation, as well as for multituner operation.

Our testing methodology was simple; we took an Athlon 64 FX and varied its clock speed, from a lowly 1GHz all the way up to 2.6GHz. While we realize that there is no such thing as an Athlon 64 FX running at 1GHz, running it at such a low speed does a couple of things for us: for starters, it reduces the benefit of having an on-die memory controller, the slower a CPU is, the less it depends on having low latency memory accesses. Another important feature that our little experiment gives us is that architecturally, the Athlon 64 is quite similar to the Athlon XP; there are some enhancements to areas such as brand prediction and a corresponding lengthening of the pipe, but overall our system at 1GHz should be a good indicator of slower 1.2 - 1.5GHz CPUs, whether we're talking about an Athlon XP or even a Pentium 4. It's not perfect, but it serves our goals well.

There are a couple of performance questions we've been dying to ask ever since Media Center Edition hit the streets back in 2003, the first of which was have fast does your CPU have to be to watch TV?

We fired up perfmon and measured CPU utilization while varying the clock speed (AMD's Cool 'n Quiet technology was disabled to make this as scientific of a comparison as possible) and came up with some interesting results.

Despite the fact that we were using "hardware" MPEG-2 encoders, the CPU overhead of just watching TV ranged from 21.5% on our fastest configuration to a whopping 42.9% on our slowest configuration. And this is just for watching TV in the Media Center interface. Try scrolling through the program guide and you can expect to tack on anywhere from 10 - 40% onto those CPU utilization figures; try running an application in the background while doing that and you can begin to see why a fast CPU is necessary.

Keep in mind that most 1GHz CPUs won't do nearly as well as our configuration, so expect even higher CPU utilization figures for older architectures. But all that being said, if all you're doing is watching TV, even the slowest of our configurations here had no problem doing that - which they shouldn't, in all honesty. It's when you complicate the situation with multiple recordings and interacting with the GUI that things get interesting. So for our next tests, we spiced things up a bit.

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  • martydee - Sunday, February 6, 2005 - link

    Does anyone know if a PVR card with a hardware DVD DECODER (such as the Hauppauge WinTV-PVR 350) is compatible with Windows MCE? And would a hardware decoder give any real benefits to the system over the software equivilent (i.e. nVidia DVD decoder)?
  • louisb - Thursday, January 13, 2005 - link

  • mulminute - Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - link

    My biggest use is sending music and photos to entertainment center,. Should I use MC 2004 or wait for 2005
  • mulminute - Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - link

    My biggest use is sending music and photos to entertainment center,. Should I use MC 2004 or wait for 2005
  • CZroe - Sunday, October 17, 2004 - link

    "Windows MCE will never be any use for people serious about video until it allows you to select what codecs you want to use for encoding from all the DirectShow codecs installed on your system. Having to use the proprietary MS stuff with all their DRM garbage is unsuitable."

    You're clearly one seriously misinformed individual. MCE isn't an interface to multiple video formats and types and simply wonld not function correctly if it were.

    Understand this: An MCE PC has one or more TV tuners and video capture cards in it and they will function exactly like any other PC with that hardware. If you want to record in the format of your choice with an XP MCE PC, no one is stopping you. Fire up your application of choice, select your codec and complain to the software maker that they don't have their own integrated EPG and automatic scheduling capabilities. Honestly, how would you expect EVERY format to support embedded CC and on the fly sequence removal? How could you expect hardware encoding support for any directshow enabled codec? You can't just throw a pre-encoded MPEG2 stream from the hardware into any encoder and expect real time results.
  • glennpratt - Thursday, October 14, 2004 - link

    Definately go to www.thegreenbutton.com/community I'm in the US so I don't know much about getting EPG and what not in Australia, but there are a bunch of people from around the world there. The first page load is excruciatingly slow on the site, but once you on its OK.
  • tantryl - Thursday, October 14, 2004 - link

    Quick question that again I haven't seen addressed that much. On the Best/Better etc. quailty settings, what is the average MB/hour ratio?

    How many hours could you store on your average 200GB (191 real GB)?
  • tantryl - Thursday, October 14, 2004 - link

    Thanks glenn.

    I'm in Australia so TiVo or the like is not currently an option (although I've heard rumours it'll be here within another year). The main problem with it is the program guide.

    Australia is officially supported by MCE2005, and I'm very interested in just what that means. So far it looks like no Australia specific music or movie internet services are supported, but I can't find anything to say definately either way. I'm so desperate I'm even considering ringing up Microsoft and going through the quagmire that is customer relations there. But the good thing is, I'm fairly certain (although again, not seen it in writing yet) that the program guide system will work. We only have 5 free-to-air channels and a couple of pay-tv subscription services (that are really the same service packaged differently) so it shouldn't be too hard for them to keep up to date.

    Looking at the performance I'm not seeing a hugley compelling reason to go any higher than a Sempron 3100+ although that might be something that would change once I actually get my hands on it and experience it.

    Hmmmm. All interesting stuff.
  • glennpratt - Wednesday, October 13, 2004 - link

    jamawass - There is an IR blaster connected to the remote USB reciever. There are two ports on it, but the old remote only came with one blaster, the new one which is actually cheaper then the old one comes with two.

    http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?desc...

    If you have one you'll understand (or a linux based competitor). The flexibility is awesome (just think about it, it's a whole computer. Not only do you have all the flexibilty advanteges of MCE, you have a full blown OS underneath) compared to a Tivo. It's also MUCH MUCH faster then a Tivo.

    As for stability, it all depends on the computer you build it on. You can't tell it's a PC if all you have is the remote. Mine has run for nearly a year, nonstop. You can even put it in S3 (Suspend to ram) and it will still wake up and record when it has to, just like Tivo.

    Really, HTPC serves a very different market then Tivo. It has a million more uses then Tivo + DVD Recorder.

    For me I have an old high end CRT data projector in my living room, and the cheapest thing I could connect to it when I first got it was a computer. Haven't looked back, even as transcoders have gotten much better and cheaper.
  • jamawass - Wednesday, October 13, 2004 - link

    How does mce control digital cable boxes for scheduled recordings? Does the remote have a built in IR blaster?

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