HDTV Support

Microsoft has taken a lot of flack on this next point, and that is the support for only OTA (over the air) HDTV broadcasts. This means that the only HDTV channels MCE 2005 will support are those you can get over a HDTV antenna, not channels like HBO HD and Discovery HD. There are sensitive issues regarding content protection that pushed Microsoft in the direction of being as safe as possible with HDTV support for MCE 2005; unfortunately this is one area where Media Center truly falls behind to set-top PVRs like the new HD enabled Tivos.

In the end, with Media Center targeted at the mass consumer market, most people aren't viewing broadcasts in HD so it's not a huge loss for Microsoft, yet. We will have to wait and see how this situation plays out in the future, as it will most definitely adjust Microsoft's course of action with regards to Media Center. Needless to say, Microsoft's safe-route with MCE 2005 has pretty much sealed the verdict as to whether or not Microsoft was going to be the champion of bringing recordable HD content to the masses.

Politics and lawsuits aside, how does MCE 2005 work with OTA HDTV broadcasts? We would love to tell you, but we can't. Although ATI's HDTV Wonder is the only HD tuner supported by MCE 2005 at this time, support for HDTV isn't built into the shipping OS. Instead, there will be a patch made available after the publication of this article, that enables HDTV support but we could not get the patch from Microsoft before the publication of this article.

We will provide updated information as soon as we can get ATI's HDTV Wonder working in a quick follow-up article.

There are a few requirements that we need to spell out for OTA HDTV to work. For starters, you need at least one analog TV tuner in the MCE system, meaning that you can have at most 2 HDTV tuners it would seem. Secondly, ATI's HDTV Wonder does not feature a hardware MPEG-2 encoder, meaning that it cannot be used as both your analog and HDTV tuner, so you'll have to either wait for another card to be supported or you'll have to deal with the fact that getting OTA HDTV support will require two cards. While we haven't had a chance to test it ourselves, HDTV playback under Media Center is supposedly pretty taxing on your system and on your graphics card. We've been told that a minimum of a 128-bit graphics memory bus is necessary, but will we confirm that as soon as possible.

In the end, it's tough to list HDTV support as a feature of MCE 2005. There are far too many limitations for it to be considered a full fledged feature; but it being a "2005" edition would seemingly dictate that it at least needs to have some support for HDTV to save face among the user base.

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  • jamawass - Wednesday, October 13, 2004 - link

    First post, longtime anandtech reader. MCE 2k5 looks good from all the reviews I've read but at around $170 (with essential remote)is just too expensive as the reviewer pointed out. With the type of hardware you need to run it, you're looking at $1000 at least. With networked DVD recorders with tivo capabilities ( which are much more stable) getting better in the $400 range why would I put mce in my living room?
  • glennpratt - Wednesday, October 13, 2004 - link

    Best solution for mom is to have TV and Computer connected and running at the same time. And yes, if mum can use windows and operate a TiVo, she can use MCE. Just make sure you get nice and stable components.
  • GodsMadClown - Wednesday, October 13, 2004 - link

    You know what? I look at this and see a market for dual-core.
  • tantryl - Wednesday, October 13, 2004 - link

    I'm trying to figure out whether this is something that you could, well, give to mum for example. Or mom as you crazy americans call them.

    Presume a nice setup, 3+GHz or equivalent, Hauppage TV Tuner, 80GB system drive and 200GB storage/video drive, 512MB or 1024MB RAM (not info given by Anand as to what difference this might make?), all MCE approved components, with the necessary remote all set up in a quiet case...

    Would Ma be able to use it? Would she be able to handle swapping between the monitor and a regular TV? Would she be better off having a physical switch that changes the signal from into the PC to into the TV?

    So Anand - you think this is something mum could use?
  • glennpratt - Tuesday, October 12, 2004 - link

    9 & 10 - I have not seen one copy protected file yet and I use both analog antenna and digital cable for over a year. It is up to the station to set the flag to lock the file, which IMO is fair. Also, you can convert the file after the fact to WMV using DVR2WMV. I like the low CPU usage that hardware MPEG2 brings, and if i decide I like the program I can convert it and archive it.
  • Reflex - Tuesday, October 12, 2004 - link

    #10: Part of the 2005 release is that its available to system builders or sites like Newegg for do it yourselfers. I do agree about codecs, but its not a *huge* deal to me.
  • segagenesis - Tuesday, October 12, 2004 - link

    #9 - I would prefer BeyondTV solely for the fact I can do whatever I want with recorded shows. And I dont have to buy a new computer just to get the *software*.
  • PrinceGaz - Tuesday, October 12, 2004 - link

    Windows MCE will never be any use for people serious about video until it allows you to select what codecs you want to use for encoding from all the DirectShow codecs installed on your system. Having to use the proprietary MS stuff with all their DRM garbage is unsuitable.
  • rbV5 - Tuesday, October 12, 2004 - link

    Nice Review Anand. I'll be building one of these shortly using dual eHome Wonder cards and HDTV Wonder (hopefully MS will release the patch soon.) I ordered MCE + the remote from Newegg earlier today, so i should be on it by the end of the week.
  • kurisu - Tuesday, October 12, 2004 - link

    I still think the interface is pretty attractive. I see this doing well in the market..

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